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Jauns XBOX tikai 2015. gadā

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Jauns XBOX tikai 2015. gadā

Postby oskarszale » Jan 19th, '10, 00:27

Microsoft originally planned to chase the high-end tech console, but the Wii changed their minds. They are now spending their money on Natal, Facebook and Avatars than the super photorealistic graphics with billions of polygons that they once promised us. They will bundle a slim console with Natal next year and call it a new console and extend the 360's life until at least 2015. You can't even bet on Sony because they are doing the same thing. Both are abandoning the tech race to chase a 'white Gamecube.
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protams varbūt kārtējie šamaņa murgi, bet tā vien izskatās, ka centīsies pavilkt veco labo 360 ar Natal un vēl kaut kādien fiņķikļuškiem līdz 2015 :)

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Postby Izliecies » Jan 19th, '10, 00:42

Paga, jūs gribat teikt, ka Xbox 360 savu ir nodzīvojis? Cik tad ilgi dzīvoja PS2?

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Postby iCE2 » Jan 19th, '10, 02:07

Jau kādu laiku tieši tāpat uzskatu, ja kāds arī laidīs ārā jaunu konsoli līdz 2015., tad tā būs Nintendo ar Wii HD variantu (t.i. tas pats 360/PS3 līmenis).
Kaut ko jaunu taisīt elementāri nav naudas - ne ražotājiem (MS/Sony, kas izgrūda billions uz tekošo paaudzi), ne arī spēļu publisheriem, kuriem atkal būtu jātērē miljardi, iepērkot devkitus, četrkāršojot komandas utt., lai beigu beigās pārdotu spēles par tām pašām cenām.

Un tas pie tam, ka vēl pirms pusgada ~50% vai 60% auditorijas spēlēja jaunākās paaudzes konsoles uz SDTV! Kāda jēga no super-puper grafikas (par kuru ir jāmaksā vispirms spēļu/konsoļu ražotājiem), kuru neviens neredzēs?

Tā kā spēlēsim vien savus 360/PS3 vēl labu laiku, un, manuprāt, tas ir lieliski.

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Postby MoDo » Jan 19th, '10, 11:13

Man liekas, ka nu jau visi — kā geimeri, tā ražotāji — ir atzinuši/sapratuši, ka grafiskā ziņā nupat jau sāk izbeigties kur iet. Protams, papildus poligonus jau vienmēr var piebāzt, bet kaut kur taču ir arī mūsu uztveres robeža, kad vizuālus sīkumu uzlabojumus vienkārši neredzēsim un nenovērtēsim. Domāju, ka nākotnē vairāk spiedīs uz 3D un plašāku interaktivitāti (nu, tie paši Natal u.c. pričendāļi), nekā vienkārši jaudas palielināšanu.
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Re: Jauns XBOX tikai 2015. gadā

Postby Brock » Jan 19th, '10, 11:44

Being drunk is just like having a really low framerate

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Postby Brock » Jan 19th, '10, 11:49

Being drunk is just like having a really low framerate

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Postby Vis » Jan 19th, '10, 11:50

whatever, man tāpat nav PC :)

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Postby Brock » Jan 19th, '10, 11:54

Being drunk is just like having a really low framerate

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Postby scoux » Jan 19th, '10, 12:14

MoDo

Tā arī to vajadzēja saprast. Nezinu kā labāk to nosaukt - pirmais vai īstais engine, ko uztaisīja priekš crysis, bija krietni par jaudīgu, lai kāds no dzelžiem vēl aizvien to pavilktu, tādēļ viņu optimizēja mazliet uz pieticīgākiem izmēriem/jaudām, kuras ir draudzīgākas šī brīža ierīcēm. Un protams, tehnoloģijas tikai attīstās, tās nevar iet atpakaļceļu :)

p.s. Un protams, pc iespējas tuvākajos gados aizlidos kosmosā salīdzinājumā ar konsolēm, kuras lietojam uz doto brīdi. Eh, tur ir tik daudz aspektu, ka nav vērts pat par to runāt.
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Postby MoDo » Jan 19th, '10, 12:23

Scoux, abi citāti bija jāskata kopā. Katru atsevišķi es saprotu, netiku galā ar pretrunu. Drusku pielaboju, lai ir saprotamāk.
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Re: Jauns XBOX tikai 2015. gadā

Postby Brock » Jan 19th, '10, 12:24

Being drunk is just like having a really low framerate

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Postby kaarliitys » Jan 19th, '10, 13:23

Protams, ka ne agrāk kā 2015.gadā. Ne jau tikai Latvijā jaunu konsoļu iegāde ir kļuvusi par ekskluzīvu lietu. Kādā jēga sadirstas globālās ekonomikas apstākļos izlaist jaunu Xbox 360. Ierastie hype u.c. mārketinga ieroči nedarbosies, jo cilvēkiem gluži vienkārši nav lieku līdzekļu konsoļu un spēļu iegādei. Protams, var to pretargumentēt, sakot, ka īsts geimeris aizņemsies, ubagos vai zags, lai dabūtu jauno Xbox iterāciju, tomēr ne jau uz nelielu saujiņu cilvēku Microsoft grib mērķēt savu nākamo konsoli. Viņi tomēr grib, lai konsoles pie iznākšanas pazustu no plauktiem līdzīgi kā tas bija ar Xbox 360, jo tikai tas var pēc iespējas ātrāk tuvināt punktu, kad ražotājs vairs necieš zaudējumus no pārdotajām konsolēm.

Tamdēļ 2015.gads šķiet loģisks un izvērtēts datums. Cita starpā, to, iespējams, varam uztvert kā ekonomikas atlabšanas prognozi no Microsoft.

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Re: Jauns XBOX tikai 2015. gadā

Postby HellDude » Jan 20th, '10, 00:13

Tagad iespējams galīgi aizbraukšu no tēmas, bet vai mēs īsti gribam foto reālismu? Vai gadījumā tik daudzas lietas nešķiet pieņemamas tikai tādēļ, ka nešķiet īstas?

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Re: Jauns XBOX tikai 2015. gadā

Postby Brock » Jan 20th, '10, 00:26

Being drunk is just like having a really low framerate

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Postby MoDo » Jan 20th, '10, 11:32

Fotoreālisms pats par sevi nav nekas slikts, slikti ir tas, ka ļoti bieži tā dēļ tiek upurētas divas daudz svarīgākas lietas — sižets un gameplay. Tāpēc arī es uz šo grafikas maratonu skatos visai skeptiski — ir jau jauki, ja spēle izskatās labi, bet tas nenoturēs pie tās ilgāk par kādu stundu, ja sižets un pati spēle nebūs līmenī. Tāpat arī tehnika (hardware + sowftware) ir sekundāra, to labi parāda kaut vai Fable (pirmais), kas vēl šodien mani "paņem" ar to, cik smuki izskatās (jo īpaši pašā sākumā, kur redzami ir pielikts vairāk darba), un nebūt neprasa ne DirectX 10, ne PS3.
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Re: Jauns XBOX tikai 2015. gadā

Postby Vis » Jan 20th, '10, 12:15

fotoreālisms ir uz ielas (ja nu kāds nav bijis ārā) un, lai tur arī paliek

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Re: Jauns XBOX tikai 2015. gadā

Postby kaarliitys » Jan 21st, '10, 12:34

Ja reiz par fotoreālismu panesās, tad,

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Being drunk is just like having a really low framerate

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Re: Jauns XBOX tikai 2015. gadā

Postby oskarszale » Nov 10th, '11, 19:55

Vecas ziņas it kā, bet neviens neko neraksta te, tāpēc iemetīšu cerību stariņu: Microsoft is gearing up to announce the successor to the Xbox 360 at E3 2012, and Crytek is already developing a new TimeSplitters game for the next generation of consoles, VideoGamer.com can reveal.

Jaunākas ziņas The Xbox is another story altogether. With a heady mix of rumors, tips and speculation, I am now stating that Xbox codename “loop” (the erstwhile XboxTV) will indeed debut a modified Win9 core. It will use a Zune HD-like hardware platform—a “main” processor with multiple dedicated assistive cores for graphics, AI, physics, sound, networking, encryption and sensors. It will be custom designed by Microsoft and two partners based on the ARM architecture. It will be cheaper than the 360, further enabling Kinect adoption. And it will be far smaller than the 360. It will also demonstrate how Windows Phone could possible implement Win9’s dev platform on the lower end. It’ll be interesting to see if Microsoft can pull off all these great feats and succeed in the market over the next five years.

Tātad 2012. gadā naudu no mums noslauks Nintendo, 2013 - MS un 2014 - Sony?! :)


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