SEGA izpļāpājas par PS2 b/c uz PS3.

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SEGA izpļāpājas par PS2 b/c uz PS3.

Postby ActionMan » Sep 22nd, '09, 13:43

patreiz jau aizvākts, bet kādu brīdi atpakaļ vēl karājās SEGA public relations FTP: ftp://segapr.segaamerica.com/SEGA_Ne...Notes%20BH.doc

Svarīgākais ieresnināts - SONY plāno visas PS2 spēles darīt digitāli iegādājamas caur PSN. Ir arī šis tas par motion kontrolieri.

SCEA Meeting Aug 5th Notes
Aug 6 2009 – DRAFT FOR COMMENTS

Objectives of Meeting
Dyer agreed to regular quarterly meetings with SOA

Sony PS3
SCEA reiterated plans to sell 13 million PS3s this year
Big announcement back half of year they can’t talk about (potentially price cut of PS3 to reach hardware goals)
SCEA commented on indexing between PS3 and 360 SKUs, should be around 2:1 to garner most favorable treatment.

Motion Controller
Spring 2010 launch (March in JP)
No bundle/pricing details yet, should come Sept 1
Plan on selling 4-5MM units WW
SCEA agreed to provide a list of Sega IP that would work well with the motion controller, Virtua Tennis was an example
Motion Controller support allows easy way to differentiate PS3 SKU
Other differentiation opportunities include PSP/PS3 interoperability – think of features that would make users want to buy both PS3 and PSP SKUs.

Alpha Protocol
Michael Foster, product evaluator, said AP felt barely RPG. Initial level too challenging for players. “Mass Effect felt more RPG.”
Review notes sent to John Merlino a few weeks prior. After meeting Gerald mentioned AP is a high priority for his team.

Planet 51
Sell in of PS3 SKU – SCEA noted that other movie titles on PS3 had underperformed as well (inc. Transformers) this cycle.
Dyer suggests contacting Susan at Walmart and asking what she wants in the pack to sell this SKU (movie tix etc)
Other possibilities are Hybrid movie disc (BD 25 or 50 with Game and Movie on same disc).

Bayonetta
Collectors edition with Bayonetta Action Figure
Novo recommended launching PSN demo around Xmas based off a Jan 5th Ship date with 2-3 week run out to launch.
3-4 weeks is usually ideal demo timing with fresh content every week leading up to launch (trailers, insider video about PG heritage, video blogs).

Vancouver 2010
HOME, Olympic destination would garner a lot of positive attention from SCEA
Should be doing same with Bayonetta, Marvel etc. Easy to launch in all territories.
HOME merchandizing opportunities (clothes etc).

Sonic Racing
Open to DLC to differentiate PS3 SKU – not ratchet and clank but other characters
maybe characters from Rare or Fable universes

Yakuza
Could put Japanese games directly on PSN for download in a special Japanese Import section (pricing $9.99 to $39.99 for full game).
Might need to localize menus at least with subtitles.
SCEA interested in helping on MKTG side if they can have period of exclusivity.

AVP
Another great HOME candidate
AVP avatars
Hybrid BD disc with movie

Iron Man 2
Great candidate for HOME space – explore Tony Stark’s lab etc.
Should have one for Marvel in general.

PSU2
Could do bundle at GameStop with PSP 30-35K units on UMD, Go, or both.

Valkyria 1937
Could bundle with PSP as well.

Vanquish and Aliens: CM
Opportunity for PS3/PSP interoperability (see Eidos Batman, Army of Two, Assassin’s Creed for good examples).
If we offer that SCEA would be really interested in having us at their booth next E3.

Thor
SCEA would like a look at the code soon.

Sonic Anniversary
Could put out collectors edition with all old sonic games on one BD disc.
“Best of Sonic” for around $99.
SCEA would love PSN exclusive power ups/different game modes (like Castlevania’s flip it over/backwards)

PS2 emulator for PS3 (confidential)
SCEA wants to sell all PS2 titles on PSN (GTA Vice City/Sonic/etc)
For co Marketing money show PS3 controller on TV ads – similar to EA Madden Spots, NCAA, etc…

London Olympics
Perfect opportunity for Motion Controller integration.

DC Digital Titles
If we provide a list of DC titles SCEA will let us know which ones they’re interested in having exclusively.
If we give them a long period of exclusivity they’ll give us more marketing support.

PSP Titles
For SKU differentiation it’s best to offer features that are slightly different from PS3 version.
Titles that are coming up on PSP are Assassin’s Creed II, GTA China Wars, Resident Evil, Little Big Planet – all massive franchises.
SCEA has a specific PSP deck which they can send up with their hardware director for a chat.

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Re: SEGA izpļāpājas par PS2 b/c uz PS3.

Postby ActionMan » Sep 22nd, '09, 21:43

Joystiq arī citē to pašu avotu, papildinot ar "Dreamcast spēles uz PSN". Vai es varu dabūt "SLAVĒTS TAS KUNGS!" ?!

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Re: SEGA izpļāpājas par PS2 b/c uz PS3.

Postby Grammaton » Sep 23rd, '09, 08:43

ActionMan wrote:Joystiq arī citē to pašu avotu, papildinot ar "Dreamcast spēles uz PSN". Vai es varu dabūt "SLAVĒTS TAS KUNGS!" ?!

Man nav bijis neviens PS, tapēc šī ziņa vairāk vai mazāk man neko neizsaka (vismaz pagaidām). :)

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Re: SEGA izpļāpājas par PS2 b/c uz PS3.

Postby ActionMan » Sep 23rd, '09, 08:59

Grammaton wrote:Man nav bijis neviens PS


Un kurš tad pie tā ir vainojams?

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Re: SEGA izpļāpājas par PS2 b/c uz PS3.

Postby Disfigurator » Sep 23rd, '09, 09:11

Neviens - ja nav interesējis, vienkārši nav interesējis un vis. Tas tā - tīri teorētiski.
Tāpat kā neviens nav vainīgs, ka man nekad nav bijis ColecoVision.
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Re: SEGA izpļāpājas par PS2 b/c uz PS3.

Postby Grammaton » Sep 23rd, '09, 09:18

ActionMan wrote:
Grammaton wrote:Man nav bijis neviens PS


Un kurš tad pie tā ir vainojams?

Drošvien, ka neviens.

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Re: SEGA izpļāpājas par PS2 b/c uz PS3.

Postby ActionMan » Sep 23rd, '09, 09:32

Un mūzika pirms Jay-Z arī neinteresēja.. ;)

Nav jau jālepojas ar to, ka PS1 un PS2 palaisti garām un vēl mazāk jāsalīdzina ar ColecoVision. Ja šitās SEGA ziņas apstiprināsies, būs jums iespēja šo to no zaudētā atgūt.

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Re: SEGA izpļāpājas par PS2 b/c uz PS3.

Postby Dzhonijs » Sep 23rd, '09, 09:56

B/c neesamiiba jaunaakos ps3 + veco speelju digitaalo versiju iegaade ieksh PSN = more money for Sony. Briinos, ka shie tik ilgi chakareejaas ar shito, laikam nebija veel tik lielos miinusos :) .
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Re: SEGA izpļāpājas par PS2 b/c uz PS3.

Postby kaarliitys » Sep 23rd, '09, 10:09

Labs raksts. Tik tiešām dīvaini, ka šīs lietas tikai tagad sāka attīstīt. Bet kudos Sony - patiesībā jau viņiem ir nepārspējama bāze, lai kļūtu par pirktāko konsoli, tik, lūk, visādi šādi sīkumi līdz šim pietrūka. Tomēr, kamēr nevarēšu nopirkt PS3 zem Ls 200, rotaļāšos vien ar savu balto kasti, lai gan gribētos redzēt, ko mans PSP varētu paveikt, sapārots ar PS3.
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Re: SEGA izpļāpājas par PS2 b/c uz PS3.

Postby Dzhonijs » Sep 23rd, '09, 11:42

Sony (daljeeji arii M$ - Mass Effect pa 20.00 poundiem?! Nu kamoon!) chakaree gan sevi, gan pirceejus. Viss it kaa virzaas uz digital distribution, bet shitie milzhi pashi liek sev sprunguljus spiekjos. Redzeesim, cik tad maxaas vecie labie ps2 un ps1 hiiti. Galvenais, lai nav atkal kaa es jau raxtiiju pie psp go, ka cenas digitaalam saturam ir tikpat augstas kaa taadam, kas ir iecepts matricaa utt. Tas ir gan nelogjiski, gan stulbi.
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Re: SEGA izpļāpājas par PS2 b/c uz PS3.

Postby ActionMan » Sep 24th, '09, 09:42

Gan jau patērētājs šiem iemācīs cik ir pareizā cena par DD spēlēm.

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Re: SEGA izpļāpājas par PS2 b/c uz PS3.

Postby Disfigurator » Sep 24th, '09, 10:08

Ceru, ka Digital distribution nekad nekļūs par vienīgo spēļu piegādes mehānismu un formu. Man tīk taustāmas lietas ar ārtvorkiem, vāciņiem un pārējiem mēsliem :)
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Re: SEGA izpļāpājas par PS2 b/c uz PS3.

Postby ActionMan » Sep 24th, '09, 11:43

Domāju, ka kļūs gan par standartu, taču ne tik drīz un ne šīs paaudzes spēlēm. 360 bez DVD dziņa būtu lētāks nekā ar (BluRay izmēra spēles pagaidām diez vai sanāks DD pirkt, jo pat ja tos gazilionus-bazilionus GB var novilkt, HDD pietiks vietas tikai dažām spēlēm) un impulsa pirkumi PSN ir biežāki nekā impulsa pirkumi veikalā. Ja vēl DD spēles būtu lētākas (kā tam pēc loģikas būtu jābūt) nekā kastītē ar vāciņu un artwork bukletu, tad lielākajā daļā gadījumu, es izvēlētos nepiemaksāt.


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